Nvidia or AMD for best performance

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Nvidia or AMD for best performance

Post by copyrightimage »

Hi Community,

My first post here so just a quick call out for the Neatimage team, as a full time retoucher I have to say that Neat image is my number one favourite plugin for rescuing and improving clients images that contain excessive or problem noise and grain, invaluable!

I have just built a new retouching PC based around a 6850K intel i7 chip clocked at 4.2GHZ.

Here are my benchmark scores:
Quality Mode: Normal
Filter:
Frequencies: High, Mid, Low, Very Low, Ultra Low
Artifact Removal: Enabled
Detail Recovery: Disabled
Edge Smoothing: Disabled
Sharpening: Disabled

Neat Image 8.0.1 Pro plug-in for Photoshop

Detecting the best combination of performance settings:
running the test data set on up to 12 CPU cores and on up to 1 GPU
GeForce GTX 670: 2817 MB currently available (4096 MB total), using up to 100%

Skipping CPU only modes with 1 - 5 cores
CPU only (6 cores): 18.3 MPix/sec
CPU only (7 cores): 18.3 MPix/sec
CPU only (8 cores): 18.3 MPix/sec
CPU only (9 cores): 18.5 MPix/sec
CPU only (10 cores): 18.4 MPix/sec
CPU only (11 cores): 18.1 MPix/sec
CPU only (12 cores): 18.6 MPix/sec
GPU only (GeForce GTX 670): 28 MPix/sec
CPU (1 core) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 28.3 MPix/sec
CPU (2 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 29.1 MPix/sec
CPU (3 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 32.1 MPix/sec
CPU (4 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 35.8 MPix/sec
CPU (5 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 35.5 MPix/sec
CPU (6 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 38.9 MPix/sec
CPU (7 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 39.7 MPix/sec
CPU (8 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 38.9 MPix/sec
CPU (9 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 38.2 MPix/sec
CPU (10 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 37.6 MPix/sec
CPU (11 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 36.6 MPix/sec
CPU (12 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670): 36 MPix/sec

Best combination: CPU (7 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 670)

Its clear that this old mid range graphics card does more processing than the modern CPU is capable of and indicates that a better graphics card *may* get performance even higher.

Im keen to use the better quality noise reduction algorithms in Neatimge v8 and so a faster processing video card becomes even more important.

I did order an Nvida 1070 but had to return it as Neat image couldn't recognise the new Cuda on it, Im wondering if any of you reading this could post the results of your video card to give me an idea of what to buy instead?

(If you have not optimised/benchmarked your copy of neatimage before then look under tools:preferences:performance menu)

Im wondering about a RX480 thinking this may be good for the Advanced mode GPU acceleration in Photoshop CC 2015.5 - I may be wrong and perhaps its only the $2000 cards that can be fluid in advanced mode, there is very little up to date information on the internet about the best cards for the best modes so some feedback from other users would be appreciated.

Many thanks
Stephen
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Post by NITeam »

Thank you for your kind words.

Regarding NVIDIA GTX 1070 and similar cards, we plan to support that in the next regular update of Neat Image.

We do not yet have direct results, but I hear that RX480 may be faster, at least in tasks similar to Neat Image and Neat Video. Regarding Photoshop, that may another issue though.

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Post by copyrightimage »

Thanks for the reply Vlad, it is looking likely that I will try a RX480 once models with a DVI port are released, though would be good to hear first hand from someone who has one of these cards to hear how they are getting on with it.

If no reply then I will take a chance and order one - and post the results for others to see.

If anyone out there has anything to add I would love to hear.

All the best

Stephen
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Post by NITeam »

Based on the specs, these cards may be even better in Neat Video due to the faster video memory they use:
Radeon R9 Fury
Radeon R9 Fury X
Radeon Pro Duo
Radeon R9 Nano

There is also the new Titan X 2016, which may also be quite fast, but we do not have measurements yet.

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AMD RX480 not supported by Neatimage

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Hi Neatimage team,Im having difficulty getting the new AMD RX480 to work:

Neat Image 8.0.3 Pro plug-in for Photoshop

Looking for NVIDIA CUDA-capable devices...
Neat Image CUDA support was disabled either manually or after a previous failed attempt to initialize CUDA.
If you are using an NVIDIA GPU and want Neat Image to utilize it please try to enable NVIDIA GPU support below in this window or contact us at photoshop@neatimage.com for instructions.

Looking for AMD OpenCL-capable devices...
OpenCL driver version: 2117.9
OpenCL initialized successfully.
Checking OpenCL GPU #1:
GPU device name is: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics
8192 MB available during initialization
No binary found for this device
Check failed - will not use the device

All the latest drivers etc, am I missing something or did I just get the wrong card?

Thanks

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Post by NITeam »

The card is right but there seems to be a problem with the plug-in build. We will check that from our side and will then contact you with further information.

Thank you,
Vlad
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Post by copyrightimage »

Thanks Vlad, let me know if you want me to test anything, happy to do it to get things going.

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Post by Traciatim »

Any updates on when these cards will be available to use? I recently upgraded to a GTX 1060 and then found out that my Neat Image performance is now abysmal.
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Post by NITeam »

We expect that to become supported in the coming 1-2 months when the next update is released.

Thank you,
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Post by bigfatron »

Any update on the update? :lol: Since updating my hardware i'm missing the GPU support badly and support for nVidia 1070 especially would be most welcome.
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We are working on it. :-)

Vlad
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